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  'Jews Killed Jesus' sign causing controversy

  by DevonMcBride in

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  http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/2873395/detail.html 'jews killed jesus' sign causing controversy

  pastor refuses to remove or change saying on outdoor marquee

  posted: 9:41 am mst february 25, 2004

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  Mr Ben

  Ok, so we're not blaming the Romans for actually doing the alleged dastardly deed, but rather the person or persons who instigated it. Now, according to the Holy Babble, who was it decided the only thing that would satisfy him was the death of his son? Jehovah Kills Jesus The Bible Merciful Gods! Old Meanie strikes again!
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  The Truth About Christianity - Give your views

  by Sirona in

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  2. bible

  ex- jehovahs witnesses often reject christianity based on what they were taught by the wts.

  when i left jws it was difficult for me to see what christianity was all about - the non-jw version.

  every time i picked up a bible, i could see the watchtower interpretation jumping out at me.

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  Mr Ben

  Hello Sirona,

  I think you especially will find this a very interesting read:

  The Jesus Mysteries: Was the "Original Jesus" a Pagan God? 
  ~Timothy Freke, Peter Gandy

  Christians are just bad Pagans

  Regards
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  How to tell my JW mum that I'm Pagan

  by Sirona in

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  2. relationships

  after about 3 years of being part of a pagan religion, i'm finally realising that this is the time to tell my jw mother.

  the question is, how do i put it over to her?

  i'm wiccan, and it is true that wiccans refer to themselves as witches.

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  Mr Ben

  Well Sirona,

  If you?re gonna go for it, why not try the old ?make it sound worse than it really is? routine, so there?s an easy landing for her?

  ?Mum, there is something I have to tell you that I have been wanting to tell you for a long time, and? there?s really no easy way to say it? perhaps you?d better sit down. You might get upset but I truly need to be honest with you because I love you.?

  She should be shittin? herself at what?s coming next? are you a bank robber? An axe murderer?

  ?Well, here it is? I?ve come to the conclusion that I should be tolerant of other people who do no harm to me or others, and that I should be the same towards other myself. I feel this natural kind of spirituality brings me into a closer relationship with the God that fills the air & earth & all the mighty Universe. How do you feel about that??

  Depending on the answer, you?ll know how much more to say? or not.

  Or try a little humour. ?Mum, I have become a Pagan, but don?t worry! I have spoken to God and She?s fine about it!? Perhaps not.

  Best wishes, I hope you are better now, as I haven?t spoke to you here for a couple of years at least

  Ben.
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  Solve this problem you dumdums :)

  by JH in

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  my nephew sent me this problem that his teacher gave him.

  you have to go through each line only once and come back to the starting point.

  start wherever you want but you have to come back to that starting point without missing one line.

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  Mr Ben

  Use an eraser... then you can't go through twice. (I'm just a cheat!)
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  Solve this problem you dumdums :)

  by JH in

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  my nephew sent me this problem that his teacher gave him.

  you have to go through each line only once and come back to the starting point.

  start wherever you want but you have to come back to that starting point without missing one line.

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  Mr Ben

  Hey, did you return to your starting point?

  Who said you couldn't take your pen off the paper? :)
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  I'm back online! - and a letter to the elders

  by dmouse in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since the breakdown of my marriage i have been living round my mum's - .

  hooray for mums everywhere, but especially mine!.

  now, mum's not the most up to date person so no computer or internet.

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  Mr Ben

  Congrats on getting out of this abusive situation! You will certainly be DF'd, the elders are probably only interested in your comment:

  "After exhaustive research and much soul-searching I was devastated to realise that the religion I had been following all my life was in fact a complete sham..."

  which means everything else you said can be dismissed as apostate.

  She will give you a bitter divorce for refusing to lie about adultery as it condemns her to celibacy. See a solicitor before admitting things in writing, ask if you can get at least a percentage of legal aid.

  PS - Sound like your youngest is really going to need you for support. Best wishes.

  Mr Ben
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  My wife stole my books!!!!

  by dmouse in

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  i had an interesting conversation with a jw last week, who insisted that she was not 'brainwashed' and would be prepared to look at any evidence i had that the 'truth' was not the one true truth.. so i went to my book cupboard to get my copies of 'crisis of conscience' and 'signs of the last days - when?

  ' in order to lend them to her.. and they are gone!!!!

  i am absolutely certain they were there only a few weeks ago.. i can only assume that my jw wife (whom i'm not on the best of terms with) has taken them.

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  Mr Ben

  It?s probably going to get worse.

  She burned the books. She probably told the elders you have aposto books. What is their advice to a faithful sister who has an aposto hubbie? Let me enlighten. They will tell her this:

  Leave your job so you will get Legal aid. Throw him out of the house, calling the police if necessary. Take him to court and demand that you remain in the house to look after the children. He will be forced to pay the mortgage, alimony, and child maintenance, and he?ll probably only have enough left for a shitty bedsit for himself ? but then, that shows what happens to those who oppose Jehovah. He will not be able to sell the house & split the equity 50/50 until the children are 16.

  This is how bad it can get. I urge you to go to a solicitor as soon as possible and find out what can be done to minimise this. You could, for instance, start secretly taping her when she?s screaming her intolerant JW bull, and evidence like this might mean you stay in the house to care for the kids while she has to go!

  Good luck man, feelin? mighty sorry for you over here in Yorkshire.

  Ben.
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  Help! Please! My sister finds loophole...

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  this past july, my only sister decided i was an apostate.

  she contacted my former cong.

  and spoke to the elders.

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  Mr Ben

  Well,

  I haven't been around here for some time, so hello all, once again.

  Sorry about your troubles Heather. I totally agree with Maverick. Why? 1. Love. & 2, you said,

  "You're right, she is the one allowing their rules to govern her relationship with me. I personally don't give a flying fig about their rules. Thank you."

  I disagree, she isn't the one allowing the rules to govern her. Her cult personality, which is not her authentic personality, is the one allowing this. You can still help your sister to mentally escape, but you must keep the door of communication open. When you get a chance to, read, "Releasing the Bonds" by Steven Hassan. Steve is now a psychologist & cult exit councillor & seems like a nice bloke, but when he was an elder in the Moonies, at one point he considered strangling his dad for trying to free him from the cult. His cult personality wasn't so nice. You also said your sister changed when she became a JW.

  The best way to help your loved ones, and hit the WTS where it hurts, is to help your loved ones get out!

  Good luck & best wishes.

  Mr Ben
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  Wordly people, df'ing, my experience

  by flower in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the bryant tragedy has really been stuck in my head and heart this week as i'm sure it has been for all of us.

  it occured to me though that there may be some here or lurking that do not understand what made robert do what he did.

  there may be some who think that his was an isolated incidence of severe untreated mental illness and have nothing to do with his being disfellowshiped.

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  Mr Ben

  Flower,

  You are a beautiful person, thank you for sharing your pain, perhaps it will help others here. I hope you have/will get your son back. You were the victim of a cult and I am glad you are beginning to heal. It wasn't your fault.

  Best wishes.

  Religion n.
  An organisation designed to promote atheism.
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  Disfellowshipped For Being Raped...

  by Anne Marie in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  dear post reader.... i was that young and pretty sister you may have seen...the one with "all those kids".

  the one who stuggled to raise her children alone.

  the one who was rarely considered as "wife material" because she was "damaged goods".

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  Mr Ben

  Anne Marie,

  Full of sympathy for you. Glad you have escaped. Welcome.

  Religion n.
  An organisation designed to promote atheism.